Sew Your Kibbe: Dramatic Classic

For an introduction to the Sew Your Kibbe Series, please see this post.  The posts in this series are intended to be a well researched and thorough investigation of the Kibbe style recommendations, along with several example patterns for each “level of dress.”  The posts in this series will be picture heavy and quite lengthy.  As always, you may want some tea.

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Introduction

At this point we’ve covered the five main types (Dramatic, Romantic, Classic, Gamine, and Natural), and first two subtypes (Soft Dramatic and Theatrical Romantic) in Kibbe’s system.  All of our remaining main types have two subtypes each – one that has more yin overtones and another that has more yang overtones.  When we looked at the Classic ID, we had a type that was a total blend of yin and yang.  This week we will look at Kibbe’s Dramatic Classic – a blended type that has slightly more yang to add a bit of extra drama to the features.  Kibbe’s Dramatic Classic is described as a “Tailored Chic.”  You can read more about Kibbe’s Dramatic Classic here.

Body Type Characteristics

The following are Kibbe’s descriptions of a Dramatic Classic Body Type:

DRAMATIC CLASSIC PHYSICAL PROFILE

NOTE: The following information should be taken as a broad outline of what makes a Dramatic Classic. It is the overall combination of the balance between Yin and Yang leaning (slightly angular physicality with a coolly sophisticated essence) that creates this Image Identity category. Therefore, slight deviation here or there is always possible and should not be worried over if it does not upset your Yin/Yang balance.
Height: Moderate, up to 5 feet 7 inches.
Bone Structure: Symmetrical, with slightly angular edges. Straight and slightly wide. Shoulders are tapered or slightly square, usually narrow. Slightly squarish hands and feet. Slightly sharp, angular or squarish facial contours (jawline, nose, cheekbones).
Body Type: Fairly trim and compact when at an ideal weight. Slightly muscular when at ideal weight. Bustline, waist and hips are somewhat straight and in even proportion when at ideal weight. On occasion slightly short-waisted. Legs and arms tend to be average or slightly long. Your body type will seem to radically change when you gain even a little weight. This is actually an illusion because your bone structure remains the same.
Facial Features: Usually moderate to large eyes, moderate lips.
Hair: May be thick and straight or fine and silky but rarely coarse. Possibly wavy/curly.
Coloring: Any coloring is possible(warm or cool, high-contrast or blended).
If overweight: Excess weight shows up right away and collects from the waist down. You seem to gain weight in the hips and thighs. You rarely gain weight around the bustline. The heavier you get, the more pear-shaped you become.
A Dramatic Classic will not:

  • Have extremely long limbs.
  • Have extremely exotic or overly lush facial features.
  • Have extremely large bones or extremely large hands and feet.
  • Have delicate bones or extremely small hands and feet.
  • Have an hourglass figure.
  • Have a boyishly straight figure.

Recommendations:

The following are Kibbe’s recommendations regarding the clothing and style choices that best suit his Dramatic Classic image ID.  The following recommendations will be taken into consideration for each garment type listed below:

  • SHAPE: Triangular, with the widest line at the shoulders, narrow at the hemline. Symmetrical geometrics, which can be sharp or sculpted. Trim, tailored, taut and crisp and slightly chunky.
  • AVOID: Ornate, intricate, or delicate shapes. Irregular shapes. Unconstructed or extremely boxy shapes. Simple symmetrical shapes without sharp edges or an elongated line.
  • LINE AND SILHOUETTE: Your silhouette is always trim and tailored with sharp edges. Clean, sleek lines. Straight lines. Elongated draping. Strong, defined shoulder line with crisp edges. Strong vertical and diagonal lines.
  • AVOID: Clingy, ornate, intricate, or flouncy lines. Unconstructed, wide, boxy, or horizontal lines. Extremely severe lines without tapering. Plain, symmetrical lines without sharp or sculpted edges.
  • FABRIC: High-quality fabrics in moderate weights. Matte-finished fabrics form the basis of your wardrobe, although you may certainly use shiny silks and the like as blouses or accents and may go ultra-shiny (to the point of lames and metallics) for evening. Moderate piles. Pliable knits and wovens (heavy jersey, cashmere, gabardine, etc.).
  • AVOID: Lightweight fabrics that cling or are ultra-sheer. Heavyweight fabrics that are stiff and bulky. Rough textures that are thick.
  • DETAIL: Detail should be crisp, tailored and geometric with sharp edges. Sharp or sculpted shoulder pads are a must in everything you own!
    Cleanly tailored necklines: notched collars, crisp Mandarins, simple jabots or ascots, cleanly slashed necklines, geometric V’s, asymmetric angulars, turtlenecks, and narrow cowls.
    Sharp details: pleats, crisp cuffs, peaked and notched or cleanly streamlined lapels, double-breasted jackets, contrasting trim, epaulets, piping, or clean braiding.
    The waist may be crisply defined with a moderate to wide belt with a geometric buckle or may be dropped or eliminated altogether in a narrow chemise-effect.
    Detail that includes sharp color contrast is excellent (for example: spectator pumps, contrasting buttons, lapel outlining).
    Sophisticated nautical-type detail is also striking when it is crisp and tailored.
  • AVOID: Ornate, intricate, or fussy detail, including frills. Animated, “perky” detail. Plain and symmetrical detail without sharp edges. Wide, unconstructed, or bulky detail. Minimal detail.
  • SEPARATES: Use carefully. Separates can be extremely effective for you when well-planned in matched sets. An “ensemble approach” to your head-to-toe appearance is always necessary.
  • COLOR: our use of color should be bold and sophisticated. Neutrals and deep colors are quite effective for you as they provide a background of simplicity to showcase your elegant use of line. Pastels can be equally effective if the fabric is very special, and you utilize them in head-to-toe sweeps. Generally, thick of blending intensities of your outfits to retain your strong vertical lines. Contrasting trim is very striking on you, particularly in two-color combinations. They key is to pick up the accent color in several places, not just one. In this way you don’t break up your sleek silhouette, you merely accent it.
  • AVOID: Multicolor splashes. A mix ‘n match approach to color. All neutrals or monochromatics with bold accents.
  • PRINTS: Prints should be geometric, slightly oversized, and bold in color contrast. Stripes, zigzags, slashes, and sleek asymmetrics also work.
  • AVOID: Flowery prints. Soft, flowing prints. Ornate prints. Irregular prints. Animated, “cute” prints. Small, symmetrical prints.
  • ACCESSORIES: Should be clean, elegant, and crisply tailored, with sharp angles.
    • SHOES: Angular, Italian-style pumps. Tailored and narrow styles. Tailored flats. Sleek, sling-backs. “Two-toned” styles (Chanel, spectators).
    • AVOID: Overly delicate or strappy styles. Heavy, chunky styles. Plain pumps or simple symmetrical styles.
    • BAGS: Crisply tailored bags. Envelopes, clutches, box-shaped bags. Metallic evening clutches. Narrow to medium briefcases, constructed, with a frame.
    • AVOID: Overly delicate or ornate styles. Large, unconstructed styles.
    • BELTS: Moderate to wide styles with large geometric buckles. Wide self-belts. Contrasting-color belts (to match shoes and jewelry or hat).
    • AVOID: Waist-cinchers. Overly ornate styles. Delicate or narrow styles.
    • HATS: Crisply tailored styles. Sharp edges and contrasting trim. Moderate to small size. Geometric and clean shapes.
    • AVOID: Fussy hats with ornate trim. Oversized styles. Severe styles. Unconstructed or floppy styles.
    • HOSIERY: Sheer, silky stockings are best. In terms of color, blend in one tone between hemline, stocking, and shoe to keep your dominant vertical line sleep. The exception to this is when you are working with sharp color contrast, head-to-toe, and your shoe or stocking color is in contrast to each other or to your hemline. Just be sure this color is picked up in several other places to avoid chopping your look.
      Textured stockings are elegant in geometrics (herringbone, etc.) when kept translucent.
    • AVOID: Opaque stockings. Lacy stockings. Ornate stockings.
    • JEWELRY: Should be sleek, elegant, and slightly chunky. Geometric shapes with sharp edges. Smooth circles that are crisp and oversized are possible. Earrings should be on the ear or spray up (not down or dangly). Necklaces should be crisply tailored and slightly chunky, and rest around the collarbone area. Moderate wrist cuffs are also possible. Remember: One elegant piece is quite effective on you!

For the individual garment types, obviously, I will be focusing on the lines of the garment, as fabric and color choices would easily be controlled by the home sewer.  It’s nice that he included a long list of acceptable fabrics though!

Jackets: Jackets are a mainstay of your wardrobe, and you should have them for every occasion, from daytime to glamour to casual. They should be crisp and tailored, with sharp shoulders and elongated line. If unconstructed, they should be very narrow and fall below the break of the hip. The shortest jacket that is sophisticated enough for you is cropped to rest at the top of the hipbone and has a very sleek, streamlined effect. Double-breasted jackets are also quite effective on you.

AVOID: Flouncy jackets that are nipped and tucked with gathers and trim. Peplums. Wide, boxy jackets. Ultra-cropped jackets (boleros, waistcoats, etc.)

Coats – Level 1: Since the Dramatic Classic look is so tailored, even their casual looks will be a bit more constructed than most of the other style IDs.  As we saw with the straight Classic type, many of these styles would work at any level, and will heavily depend on fabric choice.  Though Kibbe does say you should have a jacket for every occasion, so that does mean you get to indulge a bit in this clothing category!

B5823
Butterick 5823: Crisply tailored collar, elongated line, and narrow.  This is relatively unconstructed, but still fits the guidelines.  It has some great double breasted button options too!
BD6461
Burda 6461: View A is a great coat for a Dramatic Classic; it is very crisply tailored and has very sharp shoulders.  It would look great with a pair of jeans, but could easily work over a suit as well.
BD7329
Burda 7329: More sharp shoulders, narrow, elongated line, and clean tailoring.
BWOF-2007-11-115
BS-11-2007-115: The zippers add a nice bit of flavor to this coat without taking away from the clean lines.  A Dramatic Classic can easily handle this sort of detail, especially since it is small and adds to the sharpness and vertical line.
V8626
Vogue 8626: The version with the collar could be a great winter coat option for a Dramatic Classic.  The elongated vertical line and tailoring are there, but the slightly relaxed feel makes this a pretty good casual option.
BWOF-2009-08-102
BS-08-2009-102: This is as short as a Dramatic Classic should go with their coats and jackets; this one has some nice details that add shoulder emphasis and extra yang sharpness.
BWOF-2008-11-123
BS-11-2008-123: Double breasted option.  I like the sharpness of the flap for a Dramatic Classic; it adds a crispness that this coat wouldn’t otherwise have.
BWOF-2011-02-125
BS-02-2011-125: Narrow shape and lots of additions to emphasize the vertical line.  It has just enough detail to really work for a Dramatic Classic.

Coats – Level 2: The Level 2 options are typically more tailored and less detailed than those in Level 1.  Many of the looks are quite similar between the two levels; on a Classic type even small changes in detail will have big changes in the overall effect.

BD6845
Burda 6845: Both of these lengths would be great, though the long line of monochromatic color as seen in view A would work better for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2005-02-112
BS-02-2005-112: Narrow, sleek, and streamlined.
BWOF-2010-02-126
BS-02-2010-126: Unconstructed, but still very narrow and sleek looking.
BWOF-2012-08-101A
BS-08-2012-101A: Another example of a narrow unconstructed style.
K4225
Kwik Sew 4225: Sharp shoulders, crisp tailoring, and a long line.
BWOF-2010-08-111
BS-08-2010-111: Lots of yummy tailored details here, but with enough restraint to still work for a Classic subtype.
V9212
Vogue 9212: Dramatic Classics can get away with diagonal angular lines in a way that pure Classics can’t.  The overall look here is still tailored and streamlined, but also visually interesting.
V1467
Vogue 1467: Double breasted look that ends just at the top of the hip.
V8884
Vogue 8884: A great trench coat option; very crisp and tailored.
BWOF-2003-09-107
BS-09-2003-107: The collar detail makes this coat feel very Dramatic Classic.  The narrow fit and sleek line are great as well.
BWOF-2003-09-118
BS-09-2003-118: Peacoat styles have the great double breasted tailoring necessary for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2003-11-120
BS-11-2003-120: A more modern feel for a Dramatic Classic.  The crisp tailoring, sharp shoulders, and elongated line are prominent.
BWOF-2012-09-103
BS-09-2012-103: A crisply tailored version of a trench coat.
BWOF-2017-11-124
BS-11-2017-124: This Burda Plus coat has lots of great tailoring details.
BWOF-2007-09-127A
BS-09-2007-127A: Crisply sharp and sleek.

Coats – Level 3: I couldn’t find many Level 3 coat options, but I think many of the Level 1 or Level 2 options could be made for a formal even with different fabric choices.

BWOF-2013-02-116
BS-02-2013-116: Crisp and sleek, but with a very fancy fabric.  It would be “too much” for a Classic subtype in an everyday scenario, but it would provide enough glamour to a Dramatic Classic for a formal evening event.

Jackets – Level 1: As with the longer coats, the casual Dramatic Classic looks have more details that really make the looks read as casual.

BD7424
Burda 7424: The shorter jacket would be really sharp on a Dramatic Classic.  The longer version could work well at Level 1 or Level 2.
BD6661
Burda 6661: View A has the crisp tailoring that a Dramatic Classic needs, even in their casual jackets.
BD6847
Burda 6847: Either of these would work for a Dramatic Classic, but I think view B is particularly good because of the extra sharpness of the collar.
BWOF-2007-11-113B
BS-11-2007-113B: Crisp, elongated lines on this blazer make it work, though it may be a tad short for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2010-10-108A
BS-10-2010-108A: Double breasted style with some intense tailoring, especially on the lapels.
NL6481
New Look 6481: Sleek, elongated blazer with minimal detail.
BWOF-2012-10-106
BS-10-2012-106: Lots of fantastic details on this jacket.  Everything feels clean, crisp, and tailored though, keeping it very Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2009-09-103
BS-09-2009-103: The curved seams keep this from being placed in Level 2, but the general feel is still sleek and tailored.
BWOF-2011-08-102
BS-08-2011-102: Another great military coat option.  Lots of emphasis on the vertical line.
BWOF-2006-11-101
BS-11-2006-101: Lots of sharpness to the lines in this jacket, and the closures add just enough detail for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2006-12-123
BS-12-2006-123: The overall feel is elongated and sleek, especially when compared to lots of other puffer/winter style short jackets.
BWOF-2014-10-107
BS-10-2014-107: This could be a really sleek moto jacket for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2012-03-115
BS-03-2012-115: Another great moto-jacket option; it has a nice sleek look, but still a casual air about it.
BWOF-2010-10-138
BS-10-2010-138: A great Burda Plus option; a Dramatic Classic can really handle the fun shoulder details.

Jackets – Level 2: The level 2 jackets have some more formal tailoring details and would look great as part of a business suit or for a fancier night out.

BD7129
Burda 7129: Sharp shoulders and elongated lines, but with a few design features that add the sharpness needed for a Dramatic Classic.
B4688
Butterick 4688: In Kibbe’s general recommendations Mandarin collars get a big thumbs up, and the longer lengths of these jackets are spot on with his recommendations.
B6104
Butterick 6104: An elongated jacket with classically sharp lapels.
BD6376
Burda 6376: Very sharp shoulders and a crisp look.  The collar on View A may be a bit rounded, but it is elongated and crisp, so it should work well for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2003-10-120
BS-10-2003-120: Love adding the geometric lines to the collar as emphasis on this blazer.
BD6581
Burda 6581: Another elongated style with sharp lapel details.  View A would be too short, but the other views would be perfect.
BWOF-2009-09-107
BS-09-2009-107: Love the collar on this blazer – very crisp and cleanly tailored.
BWOF-2014-08-126
BS-08-2014-126: This is the “basic” blazer for a Dramatic Classic.  It doesn’t necessarily add a ton of dramatic touches, but it is clean and crisp.
V9039
Vogue 9039: The angled seam lines and length fit this style into the Dramatic Classic possibilities.
BWOF-2006-08-102
BS-08-2006-102: Another elongated style with crisp/clean lines.  The monochromatic color scheme and trousers are also perfect for a Dramatic Classic look.
BD6616
Burda 6616: The elongated version is perfect for a Dramatic Classic.  Love how the zipper features add to the vertical line.
S1756
Simplicity 1756: This coat is elongated, crisp, and double breasted.  The cut-outs would be a bit much on a pure Classic, but a Dramatic Classic could handle the extra bit of detail.
BWOF-2016-01-130
BS-01-2016-130: A fabulous, crisply tailored Burda Plus option.
BWOF-2010-10-139
BS-10-2010-139: Again, we see a touch of detail can go a long way for a Dramatic Classic; the overall look is elongated and clean, but the shoulder emphasis adds a bit of fun.
BWOF-2007-09-127
BS-09-2007-127: The shorter version of the Burda Plus coat from before could work well as part of an office look, or even a more casual look as showcased here.

Jackets – Level 3: These are some really lovely jacket options; the details are impactful, but not too over the top, and the result is a really fantastic formal look.

BP-2013-1-405
Burda Plus S/S 2013 #405: I’ve always loved this jacket!  The contrast adds a sharpness that really works for a Dramatic Classic, but the overall look is quite elegant and sophisticated.
BWOF-2016-03-133
BS-03-2016-133: Another great formal Burda Plus option; the neckline is very clean and crisp, with some sharp angles, but not too much detail for a Classic.
BWOF-2010-04-126B
BS-04-2010-126B: As depicted this jacket is more of a Level 2, but I thin it could look very sharp as part of an evening suit.  It has minimal detailing and extremely sharp shoulders – it would be a really fierce look for a Dramatic Classic!
BC-2013-5-0002B
Burda Classic 2013 #0002B: Elongated lines and lots of angles work well for a Dramatic Classic.  This whole outfit, as depicted, would be pretty fantastic for them.
BWOF-2015-02-112B
BS-02-2015-112B: Another elongated style.  The small, geometric print is also in keeping with their recommendations.

Skirts: Skirts should be straight and narrow. A few crisp gathers at the waist are usually needed to accommodate your hips. It is very important that your skirts are always flat from the hip to the upper thigh area. Pleats should thus be stitched down at the top, so as not to upset your sleekly vertical line. Small slits are excellent, as is any tailored detail such as pocket flaps, contrasting stitching, waistbands, etc. Hemlines can range from one inch below the knee to the top of the calf. The latter will need a slit. Longer is, of course, perfect for evening.
A bias-cut skirt is possible, as is a straight skirt that has a bias-cut piece added to the bottom, gently flaring out. These hemlines are uneven and must be longer, in the mid-calf range.

AVOID: Full, flouncy skirts. Skirts with fussy detail (draping, shirring, and gathers). A-lines. Wide, unconstructed skirts.

Level 1: For Level 1 skirts, the overall effect is that of being casual because of the combination of details and fabric choice.

BWOF-2009-05-104
BS-05-2009-104: Crisp gathers at the waist, straight, narrow, a small slit, just below the knee, and a few tailoring details.
S1367
Simplicity 1367: Simple and elongated.  This is a great option to utilize print fabric for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2006-03-115C
BS-03-2006-115C: Sleek and narrow, with a small slit at the knee.  The monochromatic color scheme is very Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2008-02-111A
BS-02-2008-111A: Again, sleek and narrow, but with a few angular details to add interest.
BWOF-2010-03-106B
BS-03-2010-106B: Narrow, with a few tailored details.  A Dramatic Classic may need to extend the hem length a bit.
BWOF-2012-04-135
BS-04-2012-135: This Burda Plus skirt is great – it has the shape and line, plus some fantastic angular details that can really add to the Dramatic Classic look.
BWOF-2014-12-116
BS-12-2014-116: Elongated line with a slit up the front.
BWOF-2009-09-133
BS-09-2009-133: A straight skirt with bias-cut pieces attached at the bottom with gentle flare.  I think it would work well in a casual ensemble; possibly for a fancier look as well in a different fabrication.
BWOF-2018-08-121
BS-08-2018-121: Elongated, narrow, with angular detailing.
B6326
Butterick 6326: Very sleek and narrow, emphasizing the vertical line.
BE-2017-2-5A
Burda Easy F/W 2017 #5A: Sleek and narrow, with a back slit and zip detail on the front.  Everything is very vertically elongating.
S8175
Simplicity 8175: Both views A and B are elongated with slits and pocket details.  Either could work for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2010-08-127
BS-08-2010-127: Extremely fitted and elongating.
BP-2013-1-407
Burda Plus S/S #407: This Burda Plus option emphasizes the vertical line with the stitching detail on the front.
BWOF-2007-06-132
BS-06-2007-132: A long Burda Plus option with vertical slit up the front.  As a side note: those hip yoke seam pockets are so cool!
BWOF-2014-08-139
BS-08-2014-139: Although a Dramatic Classic would want a different fabric, the overall silhouette here would work, as does the pocket detail.

Level 2: For Level 2 we see even sleeker, more fitted examples.

BD6467
Burda 6467: Both views would work here; we have an elongated line, with a side slit and minimal detail.  The fitted waist is great.
BD6835
Burda 6835: A similar style with a zip slit detail.  View A’s length would be better for a Dramatic Classic.
BD7069
Burda 7069: View B would be the better option here, though view A could work if we take Kibbe’s description of a bias cut skirt quite liberally.
BWOF-2005-10-105A
BS-10-2005-105A: Sleek and elongated; the details add a very angular effect.
BWOF-2010-09-118
BS-09-2010-118: More elongated with minimal detailing.
BWOF-2011-01-113
BS-01-2011-113: A similar elongated style, with a vent in the back.
BWOF-2013-09-105A
BS-09-2013-105A: Simple, narrow, elongated, with a side slit for walking.
BWOF-2015-11-125
BS-11-2015-125: Here is a Burda Plus example with a small slit and elongated, narrow line.
BWOF-2017-09-114
BS-09-2017-114: This is a fantastic recent option from BurdaStyle Magazine.
BWOF-2018-09-110B
BS-09-2018-110B: This year also features elongated, sleek lines with clean tailoring detail.
BD6431
Burda 6431: View A could be great for a Dramatic Classic who wants a skirt that goes to the calf.
BD6469
Burda 6469: The angled pockets work for a Dramatic Classic because they are still sleek and clean.
BD6506
Burda 6506: View A could be a great office look for a Dramatic Classic.  Not boring, but still fairly conservative with the minimal slit.
BD6700
Burda 6700: View B is a great length, and it includes a lengthening slit detail.
BD6705
Burda 6705: If a Dramatic Classic wants a very basic skirt this could be a great option.
BD7248
Burda 7248: Vintage styles have the length, fit, and waist details Kibbe describes.
V9209
Vogue 9209: Elongated, with a slit, and fun tailoring details on the pockets.
V8697
Vogue 8697: Lots of great lengths here, with very sharp, crisp details.
V8672
Vogue 8672: Views A and B would work for a Dramatic Classic; the extra detail at the waist is great.
M5523
McCall’s 5523: The grey and yellow options could work for a Dramatic Classic; the red and blue styles would be too flouncy.
BWOF-2017-08-102
BS-08-2017-102: A narrow style with a slit and angular zip detail.
BWOF-2016-08-128A
BS-08-2016-128A: The seaming detail adds vertical emphasis that really works for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2013-03-117
BS-03-2013-117: A very simple style in a good silhouette.
BWOF-2011-08-127
BS-08-2011-127: Elongated, narrow, with a “faux slit” in the front.  Great way to get the look and still have a more conservative feel.

Level 3: We get to see a few more examples of the bias-cut options for evening.

BWOF-2001-04-137
BS-04-2001-137: Very straight and narrow, but with the extra godet at the back for movement.  The overall impression is great for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2003-11-132
BS-11-2003-132: I don’t know that I would choose this fabric combo for a Dramatic Classic, but the skirt silhouette would be fantastic for evening.
BWOF-2003-12-103
BS-12-2003-103: Another elongated, crisp style.
BWOF-2003-12-114A
BS-12-2003-114A: Very long and straight, with a slit detail for movement.
BWOF-2006-11-114A
BS-11-2006-114A: Adding a decorative bit of fabric to the slit can really elevate the design for an evening look.
BWOF-2015-12-115C
BS-12-2015-115C: Ultra shiny fabrics are perfect for evening; this elongated skirt with angular slit would be great for a Dramatic Classic if the sequins were lined to give a bit more opacity.
BWOF-2018-02-119
BS-02-2018-119: Very flat but detailed waistband.  The overall silhouette is extremely crisp and sleek.
BWOF-2008-12-125
BS-12-2008-125: Elongated, gently flaring, with a slit.
BD8133
Burda 8133: The View D skirt is great for evening – elongated and very shiny.
BWOF-2016-03-134A
BS-03-2016-134A: Here is a Burda Plus example.  It is perhaps not as narrow as would be desired, but it is generally crisp and sleek.
BWOF-2016-03-134B
BS-03-2016-134B: The full length version would be a bit more successful for an evening look.

Pants: Simple tailored styles with pleats and man-tailored detail are best. The pants should be clean, sleek, and elegant.

AVOID: Fussy or ornate styles. Tapered or pegged style. Wide, baggy, or unconstructed styles.

Level 1: Since the trouser styles all need to be clean and sleek, fabric choice is really going to be the determining factor for level of dress in this category.

BD7348
Burda 7348: View C is clean and sleek with simple detail.
BWOF-2005-02-102A
BS-02-2005-102A: The angular detail at the top adds a touch of interest, but the overall silhouette is very sleek.  The contrasted topstitching makes the look feel casual.
BWOF-2005-02-110
BS-02-2205-110: The button detail adds just enough to keep these trousers interesting but still fitting for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2005-08-113
BS-08-2005-113: The amount of detail on these trousers definitely makes them feel casual, but the overall look is still quite sleek.
BWOF-2006-11-122A
BS-11-2006-122A: Even an interesting pocket detail can make a pair of simple trousers feel more casual for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2011-02-124
BS-02-2011-124: Clean and sleek, but the fabrication makes these feel less formal.
BD6432
Burda 6432: Narrow jeans styles could work because they still feel very sleek and streamlined.
BD7863
Burda 7863: Another jeans option for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2005-02-106
BS-02-2005-106: Simple and sleek, with just a hit of detail at the waist.
BWOF-2006-09-118A
BS-09-2006-118A: Just a hint of topstitching detail on these otherwise simple trousers.
BWOF-2009-09-113B
BS-09-2009-113B: Another option for a sleek looking pair of jeans.
BWOF-2006-03-131A
BS-03-2006-131A: This Burda Plus look is quite clean and tailored, but clearly works for a casual look.
BWOF-2008-03-126B
BS-03-2008-126B: Another streamlined Burda Plus look with a touch of detail.
BWOF-2008-07-131B
BS-07-2008-131B: The pockets and topstitched cuffs give this the “man tailored” details Kibbe mentioned.
BWOF-2009-09-109
BS-09-2009-109: Very sleek and clean, with a front pleat and cuff detail.
BWOF-2006-08-112A
BS-08-2006-112A: Similar to the above style, but even sharper in appearance. 

Level 2: The level 2 looks are a bit sharper, more tailored, and less detailed.

BC-2013-5-0008
Burda Classic 2013 #0008: Very clean and crisp, with a center front pleat detail.
BWOF-2013-08-118B
BS-08-2013-118B: Another sleek, elegant style with “man-tailored” welt pocket detail.
V1416
Vogue 1416: A nice option of trousers from Vogue.
BD6816
Burda 6816: This Burda Plus design is very crisp and clean.  View A would be great for a Dramatic Classic.
BP-2013-2-411B
Burda Plus F/W 2013 #411B: Very sleek, with some interesting tailoring details and pockets.
BWOF-2007-10-126B
BS-10-2007-126B: Sleek, clean, with pleats and cuffs.
BWOF-2009-01-130A
BS-01-2009-130A: A very sleek look with minimal tailoring elements.
BWOF-2009-10-134
BS-10-2009-134: Another fantastic Burda Plus option.
BD6898
Burda 6898: Another very clean/sleek/crisp option.
BWOF-2018-11-117A
BS-11-2018-117A: This is a more modern example of a clean look with minimal detail. 
BWOF-2015-11-107B
BS-11-2015-107B: Sleek and clean, with a front pleat.
BWOF-2007-02-115A
BS-02-2007-115A: Very sleek with minimal detail.

Level 3:  As previously stated, most of the trouser styles could work at any level, but I did find some Burda Plus trousers that would look great as part of a Level 3 outfit.

BWOF-2005-12-130A
BS-12-2005-130A: Extremely clean and sleek.  Pairing with a fabulous jacket is great for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2013-02-143B
BS-02-2013-143B: Clean and sleek, with minimal tailoring details.
BWOF-2013-02-143A
BS-02-2013-143A: Burda even paired this style with a top as part of a wedding look!

Blouses: Blouses should be elegant and tailored, with sharp edges and crisp detail. Stock-tie blouses are acceptable with a very tailored suit, but a more dramatic style is best when the jacket is not covering it. Fabric can be crisp and smooth (luscious cottons), elegantly shiny (charmeuse), or softly woven (challis).

AVOID: Frilly, ornate, flouncy styles with excess detail. Unconstructed styles with no detail.

Level 1: I tried to find a variety of styles that could work in more casual fabrics but still had elegant, sharply tailored edges to them.

BWOF-2008-09-107
BS-09-2008-107: The sleeves create a very sharp edge and shoulder emphasis.  In sequins this could go as part of a date night/evening look; but in a knit this could be a good basic t-shirt pattern for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2009-07-106
BS-07-2009-106: The feel is crisp and tailored, though the overall impression is quite casual.  Good for an easy summer look; it would probably work well under a jacket.
BWOF-2011-10-128C
BS-10-2011-128C: One of the tie blouses that would be “acceptable” as part of a suit; without a jacket it gives a much more casual feel to an outfit.
BWOF-2014-06-115
BS-06-2014-115: The pleating detail adds a sharpness to the top of this shirt.
S1462
Simplicity 1462: Clean lines, but not necessarily sharp enough to work in a more formal outfit.
BWOF-2007-05-116A
BS-05-2007-116A: A short sleeved button up blouse is great as part of a casual look.  The geometric print Burda used would also fit in well with the Dramatic Classic look.
BWOF-2007-06-111
BS-06-2007-111: The asymmetry makes this blouse feel quite casual, but the overall impression is very crisp and clean.
BWOF-2009-01-108
BS-01-2009-108: This style could work in a “crisp and smooth” cotton or an “elegantly shiny” charmeuse.
BWOF-2006-04-117
BS-04-2006-117: Just enough detail to make this top suitable for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2006-06-102
BS-06-2006-102: Sharp tailoring details keep this Dramatic Classic, but the overall cut reads as very casual.
BD6630
Burda 6630: Am great knit option for a casual Dramatic Classic look.
BD6795
Burda 6795: The overall look is quite sleek and streamlined.
BE-2015-2-3A
Burda Easy F/W 2015 #3A: The collar adds a sharpness to this streamlined knit top.
BWOF-2015-11-112
BS-11-2015-112: I would call this pretty elegant and tailored for a knit style top.
B5525
Butterick 5525: The yellow version has a very sharp neckline that would work well with a Dramatic Classic.
BD6722
Burda 6722: A similar option from Burda.
BWOF-2006-10-114B
BS-10-2006-114B: The shoulder details offset the rounded neckline, so this should work for a casual Dramatic Classic look.
BWOF-2016-09-124
BS-09-2016-124: The simple details feel clean and sharp, but also very athleisure casual.
M7092
McCall’s 7092: V-necks create a sharpness that help more basic knit tops work for a Dramatic Classic.
V9227
Vogue 9227: This pattern has some fun shoulder details that add a more tailored feel to a knit top.
V8670
Vogue 8670: Similar to the above.  This pattern also comes in larger sizes; I’ve been meaning to make it for my mom for a while now…

Level 2: The Level 2 options have more traditional tailoring elements and would work well in an office/work look.

BD6694
Burda 6694: The V-neck detail adds the necessary sharpness needed for a Dramatic Classic blouse.
BD7192
Burda 7192: The tops in this pattern all feel very sharply tailored, with crisp details.
BD8438
Burda 8438: Strong shoulders and mandarin collars are very crisp and clean.
V9351
Vogue 9351: The blouse in this wardrobe pattern also has a strong shoulder line and crisp collar detail.
BWOF-2005-08-119A
BS-08-2005-119A: A clean design with sharp details in an elegantly shiny charmeuse.
BWOF-2005-08-119B
BS-08-2005-119B: The same design works well in a crisply smooth cotton.
BWOF-2006-09-105
BS-09-2006-105: Another blouse that still looks nicely tailored despite being made in a shiny fabric.
BWOF-2009-10-105B
BS-10-2009-105B: Another great option for a blouse tailored in a smooth fabric.
BWOF-2011-01-132
BS-01-2011-132: Strong collar and neckline on this Burda Plus top.
BWOF-2011-02-140
BS-02-2011-140: Another crisply tailored top.  The length could be shortened a bit to make the top more versatile.
BWOF-2015-11-129
BS-11-2015-129: A nicely crisp Burda Plus blouse option.

Level 3: Some extra tailoring details can elevate the button up style to Level 3.

BWOF-2007-08-108A
BS-08-2007-108A: A very clean and crisp style, with sharp pin-tucks that add to the vertical line.
BWOF-2008-12-126
BS-12-2008-126: This pleating detail also adds a sharpness that make this blouse feel a bit fancy, and could be used in a classy evening look.
B6134
Butterick 6134: Another streamlined top that could be part of a fancy Dramatic Classic look.

Sweaters: Sweaters should be lightweight and elegant; silky and skinny-ribbed styles are excellent choices. Sweaters should be slightly elongated, with shoulder pads. Long cardigans with pads and jacket styles are very good for the dressy-casual look. Sleek and elegant beading is also stunning.

AVOID: Fluffy knits with ornate trim. Thick, rough, or heavy knits that are bulky. Shapeless sweaters. Cropped sweaters and vests. Symmetrical styles with plain detail such as crew-necked shetlands.

Level 1: With structure and tailoring being so key to the overall look of a Dramatic Classic, there aren’t a lot of sewing pattern styles that fit this description, so I went a bit outside of the recommendations to keep in the overall feeling of Dramatic Classic rather than sticking to the exact recommendations.

BE-2014-2-2A
Burda Easy F/W 2014 #2A: While this style isn’t very elongated, it is lightweight and has a certain elegance in its simplicity.  I think a Dramatic Classic could pull off this style in a casual outfit if the overall look is monochromatic.
BWOF-2010-04-117B
BS-04-2010-117B: A lightweight, elegant style.  The shorter length keeps it in the casual territory.
BD6846
Burda 6846: I feel like the A/D combo could really work for a Dramatic Classic; the overall effect is sharp and tailored.  View B could also work for a casual look, especially in a ribbed knit.

Level 2: These are more in fitting with the “dressy-casual” look Kibbe mentions.

B6495
Butterick 6495: The elongated cardigan is great for a Dramatic Classic.  Adding some beading detail would be a great way to elevate this look.
M5978
McCall’s 5978: Lightweight, elegant, slightly elongated, with elegant beading trim.
V9026
Vogue 9026: Lightweight and slightly elongated, with a sharp-V neckline.  This could be part of a casual office look.

Level 3: None.  As with many of our other yang-influenced types, a soft sweater is just too casual to wear to a formal event when structured jackets can be a much better option.

Dresses: Dresses should be tailored, sleek, and narrow, with sharp edges and crisp detail. Coat dresses, chemises, and slinky sheaths are all excellent. Waists may be defined with a wide, geometric belt (usually in a contrasting color to match accessories), or may be dropped low, or even eliminated. Elongated draping or sleek bias-cuts are also soft and elegant. Sharp or sculpted shoulders (with pads) are a must!

AVOID: Flouncy dresses with ornate and intricate trim. Fussy detail such as shirring, gathers, silk flowers, bows, ribbons, etc. Wide unconstructed shapes.

Level 1: Lots of tailored shirt dresses in this level.  As with most of the categories here, fabric choice and amount of detail will really change how the pattern reads in terms of formality.

BWOF-2007-05-114
BS-05-2007-114: Tailored, sleek, and narrow.  The wide belt is also in keeping with the Dramatic Classic recommendations.
BWOF-2009-05-126
BS-05-2009-126: Another great tailored shirt dress.  The details are all quite sharp and geometric, but the amount of detail makes this feel very casual.
BWOF-2006-05-119
BS-05-2006-119: An even longer shirt dress option.  The sharp collar and pocket details work well for the Dramatic Classic.
V9313
Vogue 9313: Views A/B/C would all be great for a casual summer look.
BWOF-2014-05-103
BS-05-2014-103: Sharply tailored and very fitted, with geometric detail.  The length looks a bit short on the model, but I suspect it might be because the model looks extremely tall.
M7430
McCall’s 7430: Sleek and narrow, with sharp edges and crisp detail.
BWOF-2008-11-118
BS-11-2008-118: A t-shirt dress is a great way to have a sleek, yet casual look.
S8334
Simplicity 8334: Elongated silhouette, but with a sharp neckline.  The knit keeps the overall feel very casual though.
M7662
McCall’s 7662: Sleek and narrow, with an elongated silhouette.  The dropped waist is allowed in Kibbe’s recommendations.
M7621
McCall’s 7621: Views A, C, and D would all work as a fun/casual look, though the hem would likely need to be lengthened a bit.
M7531
McCall’s 7531: Another simple, sleek, narrow fitting knit dress option.
BWOF-2014-08-103
BS-08-2014-103: Sharp shoulders and angular seam lines make this dress suitable for a Dramatic Classic.  
BWOF-2012-05-137
BS-05-2012-137: A nicely tailored Burda Plus shirt dress with crisp details.
BWOF-2014-09-138
BS-09-2014-138: Another great Burda Plus option with sharp neckline detail.  A Dramatic Classic would likely not want as much contrast in the fabric, but the pattern itself is great.

Level 2: The Level 2 looks are even more sleek and streamlined.

BD6454
Burda 6454: View A is a fantastic option for a Dramatic Classic.  Long and sleek, with strong a shoulder line.
B6410
Butterick 6410: Tailored, sleek, narrow, and elongated.  All of these options would be great for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2009-10-115
BS-10-2009-115: Narrow and sleek, with strong shoulder emphasis and sharp, angular neckline.
BWOF-2010-09-122
BS-09-2010-122: Another elongated style with sharp shoulder detail.
V9019
Vogue 9019: The seams on this dress add shoulder emphasis.  There is also lots of shaping to create a narrow, sleek look.
V8997
Vogue 8997: Narrow, with sharp, angular seaming detail.
V8947
Vogue 8947: Views A and B are both great; sharp shoulder emphasis and angular necklines with a narrow silhouette.
V8280
Vogue 8280: Another great pattern with sculpted shoulders, a sharp neckline, and a sleek look.
B5559
Butterick 5559: This would work more for a date night, but the angular detail is subtle enough for a Classic but sharp enough to add the drama.  The hem length could be slightly elongated for a Dramatic Classic.
BD6576
Burda 6576: Another sleek, narrow style with a dropped waist.
BWOF-2011-01-133
BS-01-2011-133: This Burda Plus look has a strong neckline with a sleek, tailored silhouette.
BWOF-2015-12-131A
BS-12-2015-131A: Another simple, sleek Burda Plus design that is quite fitted.
BD6450
Burda 6450: Burda has a lot of elongated styles with angular design elements that work well for a Dramatic Classic.
BWOF-2009-09-111
BS-09-2009-111: I love how the pleating detail on this bodice adds such a sharp tailoring element to the design.
BWOF-2017-02-109
BS-02-2017-109: More angular design elements and a slightly dropped waist.
V8532
Vogue 8532: This design has sharp shoulder emphasis.
V1121
Vogue 1121: This pattern from Vogue could be a great option for an office appropriate look if you have a more formal work environment. 
BWOF-2006-04-109
BS-04-2006-109: Dramatic Classics could totally rock the trench dress trend that’s taken the world by storm this year.

Level 3: The Level 3 designs really focus on simple styles with clean, sharp details.

BD6830
Burda 6830: Very sleek and elegant, with a crisp neckline.
BWOF-2006-03-117
BS-03-2006-117: A similar style from Burda Plus magazine.
BC-2012-2-0004B
Burda Classic 2012 #0004B: A simple sheath with a square neckline is perfect for a Dramatic Classic evening look.
M7282
McCall’s 7282: With an elongated hem this would be great.  The sparkly fabric works well for Dramatic Classics for evening looks.
BP-2013-2-424
Burda Plus F/W 2013 #424: A Burda Plus option with a sharp neckline.
BWOF-2008-06-128
BS-06-2008-128: Strong shoulder emphasis on this Burda Plus design.
BWOF-2010-05-140
BS-05-2010-140: More sharp necklines and strong shoulder emphasis in this Burda Plus sheath dress.  This is the perfect length, and elegantly simple.
BWOF-2010-02-125
BS-02-2010-125: Another simple sheath with a sharp neckline, both in the front and back.  The seams allow it to be very tailored and sleek.
V8612
Vogue 8612: Sleek, elongated, tailored, with shoulder emphasis.

Evening Wear: Symmetrical shapes with clean, geometric detail Shoulder emphasis. Angular necklines. Smooth fabric. Beaded fabric. Understated trim.
Slinky sheaths. Jacketed gowns. Tailored dinner suits. Long gowns with sharp shoulder emphasis. Tailored cocktail dresses. Evening pants with jacket.

The evening looks are really just an extension of the Level 3 looks, but I’ve tried to look for more elegant, elongated gowns with fancy fabrics.

BC-2012-2-0004C
Burda Classic 2012 #0004C: Symmetric, with an angular neckline, slinky shape, and fancy beaded fabric.
BD6707
Burda 6707: Ok, so while this dress was perfect for Gamines as depicted, I think in a monochromatic fabric it could also work well for a Dramatic Classic.  The impression would need to be less wild, but the pattern and silhouette would work well.
BWOF-2004-12-103
BS-12-2004-103: Elongated style in smooth fabric with sharp neckline and shoulder emphasis.
BWOF-2008-12-107
BS-12-2008-107: Another elongated style with beading detail on the bodice.
BWOF-2010-06-118
BS-06-2010-118: The bottom half of this dress may be a bit soft, but the shoulders are fantastic.  Might be a good option to frankenpattern for a Dramatic Classic.
M7283
McCall’s 7283: Slinky sheath, with a clean, elongated line.
S8330
Simplicity 8330: More clean, elongated shapes with angular necklines.
BD6547
Burda 6547: Is this Burda Plus pattern great for everyone?  No, but it is pretty close.  The square neckline and elongated shape work well for the Dramatic Classic.  The beaded fabric detail also works for this style ID.
BWOF-2015-10-131B
BS-10-2015-131B: A very simple, clean, elongated Burda Plus gown.

Another ID down!  I think the comparison between Classic and Dramatic Classic is a great way to really understand how the subtypes can require just very slight modifications to be distinct from the main type.  While some of these recommendations overlap, a lot of the looks from Dramatic Classic are too strongly yang to work for a pure Classic.  There was actually a fair amount of overlap with the pure Dramatic styles, though the amount of detail still needs to be a bit more subdued for a Classic subtype.  As I noted in the main Classic post, finding a variety of styles within my set of sewing patterns was a bit tricky, and I found that to be true this week as well, since the recommendations for Dramatic Classics are quite precise.  I think the resulting options are quite comprehensive, though perhaps not so numerous as I’ve had for other style IDs.

Also, I mentioned a couple of weeks ago that Soft Dramatic was my aspirational Kibbe ID, but I’m pretty sure Dramatic Classic is a close second.  I love the clean lines and extremely tailored styles.  I know this style would be far too severe and fitted on me, but any style ID where “jackets are a mainstay of [the] wardrobe” is definitely high on my list of inspirational styles.  It’s interesting how different this is from Soft Dramatic; one is all about large sweeping shapes and Dramatic Classic is all about streamlined, tailored looks.  This possibly speaks to why, in hindsight, many of my sewing projects are all over the map, style wise.  It also, hopefully, gives me the insight to make more strategic choices in the future and avoid making a bunch of closet orphans, as I have in the past.  If nothing else, I’m at least starting to crystalize what I like and why, and that should be really helpful in planning sewing projects in the future.

Coming Next Week: This week we looked at what happens when you add a bit of yang to a Classic with the Dramatic Classic.  Next week we’ll see what happens when you go the other way and add a little extra yin with Kibbe’s Soft Classic!


26 thoughts on “Sew Your Kibbe: Dramatic Classic

  1. Such a great review, as always. I was pretty sure this was closest to me before I started reading, but then I hesitated because of a couple minor differences in the physical characteristics. Then I basically scrolled through what was my own wardrobe of best styles and patterns I like (!) and so I do think this is me. I found your comments at the end insightful as usual. Thanks for all of this work.

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    1. I think it’s important for all of us to remember that we don’t have to be 100% in the guidelines to be in that type. We all have unique aspects, and it is the combination of things on the whole that really determine the Kibbe ID. I find people get fixated on height, but that’s only one aspect of the overall impression.

      And I’m glad you found/confirmed your ID! I’m happy to hear that I made good pattern selections too. 😉

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  2. Mind officially blown! I kind of expected this to be a cross section of Classic and Dramatic, a la Venn diagram. I did NOT expect an entirely new collection of patterns to spend hours and hours reviewing. These are fantastic. Now I’m trying to decide how many coats and jackets one person really needs (when the temperature rarely drops below 70).

    Looks like the 02-2005 Burda was the place to score fun nautical patterns. Why don’t I have that one?!?!?! 😭 Going to eBay…

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    1. I tried to find patterns that are unique to the subtypes, but I think finding such different patterns really points to why subtypes are needed in the first place; a Dramatic Classic needs a touch more detail that a pure Classic, but not quite so much sharpness are a pure Dramatic.

      Also, yes, the 02-2005 Burda is fantastic for nautical stuff, but I think the October 2016 also has a nice nautical themed spread.

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  3. Once again, you’ve done a really great job of bringing Kibbe’s words into pictorial view with your pattern recommendations. I would say that what I found most appealing about DC was the trouser recs. As someone that hates skinny and/or ankle pants, traditional man-style trousers are more my thing. I also liked the long and double-breasted coats, as I love me a good peacoat. But, in reviewing the other styles, I really think the overall line is too straight and severe for me. Looking forward to next week as I have wavered between SC and SN as to which is best for me.

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    1. I find the DC lines would all just be a touch too severe on me, but I really like the cleanliness of the overall look. I think the SC post will really illustrate the difference between DC and SC, though the SN post will be a little ways off. Hopefully it will all become clear once we get there!

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  4. Love these posts and I can’t wait for the SC. In my wardrobe I definitely saw classic and romantic clothes from your posts in my wardrobe that suit me. Doing the test I am a SC.

    I am finding it difficult to find my daughters Kibbe type. Every time I do the quiz I get different results. I thought she was DC but looking at the clothes I couldn’t see her wearing them.

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    1. How old is your daughter if you don’t mind my asking? I think it can be hard to fully determine Kibbe type before the early to mid 20s because they keep growing/changing until then. I think it’s also why teenagers can often get away with wearing all sorts of crazy stuff – they haven’t finished growing into their bodies yet.

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  5. Yes I think she is closest to a Classic. She is 169cm tall small face with soft features and bone structure, small feet and hands. Her arms and legs are in proportion to her body. She has a small bust and if she puts on weight she puts it on hips and waist. What throws me is she goes to the gym and get muscular arms and legs and also she likes to have coloured hair. Her hair is long and fine and at the moment it is purple pink and orange. This is why I thought she may have been DC.

    Recently she wore a nude fitted fish tail sleeveless evening dress with a black lace bodice up to the neck which suited her. The bright hair she wore in soft curls.

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    1. She might be more of a Soft Classic based on the description. Kibbe’s writings talk about what happens when people gain weight; it’s not quite as clear about the effects of having an intense workout regimen. The ability to color hair in cool ways possibly has more to do with her coloring than style type? It also speaks to the idea that we can add personal style on top of any ID and make it really unique.

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    1. Ok, so I took a look and I can see why this is tricky! I tried to apply the Kibbe quiz, and I agree that I got mostly C answers, and ended up with a near even split between A/B and D/E. I found that the A/B influence was more in the questions related to the body, and the D/E answers came more from questions about the face. But, again, it was a pretty even split. The overall impression I get, though, it one of slight softness, despite her obvious muscles from working out. The muscles themselves are visible, but not taught and chiseled, as I think would be more the case for a yang influenced type like a Dramatic Classic. I also find that her eyes are quite striking, and they are very rounded, which really helps sway the overall impression to that of softness. Also, the gown with the lace is stunning and looks fantastic on her! It’s a bit hard to make decisions based on what clothing looks good because she is in workout gear in so many of the photos, but my guess would be Soft Classic based on the Instagram. Take it with a grain of salt; I haven’t seen her in real life, and I’m not really *that* good at typing people (I’ve focused much more on looking at clothes for this blog series), but I’m getting an overall Soft Classic vibe. Her personal style is clearly a bit edgier, but I think that when it comes out in the Soft Classic lines it really works for her. I think you should look at next week’s post and see if perhaps those styles might seem to be a bit more in line with what you feel suits her? Hopefully it will be more clear after you can compare all of the subtypes in depth.

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  6. This is very interesting, thank you! I had myself absolutely pegged as a dramatic classic, except I am genetically cursed with short legs and strong calves. As I scrolled through the styles it was Yes Yes Yes to all the tops and dresses, and in fact I already own a couple of these patterns! But the man-style tailoring of the trousers is disasterous on me – I’ve found more streamlined pants with no side / hip pockets are much more flattering on me – and I definitely don’t want skirts finishing anywhere in the calf area, they have to finish on the knee for me (being the narrowest point of my legs). A great insight into taking my Kibbe style and adjusting for the quirks of my own body.

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    1. It sounds like you are Dramatic Classic from the waist up and pure Classic from the waist down! Kibbe always emphasizes that the subtypes belong to the main type *first* and that the extra yin/yang is a subtle undercurrent that slightly adjusts things. It’s all a spectrum, which is why I think understanding the base types was important before jumping into all of the subtypes. If something isn’t quite working, adjusting back towards the recommendations of the base type a bit might help. If things still feel off, that’s when you should re-examine the style ID, but it sounds like you found your happy spot here in Dramatic Classic. I agree that we all have our own quirks that we need to slightly adjust for – removing the man-tailoring makes everything even more streamlined, which is still in keeping with the overall Classic feel of this style type, so I think that totally makes sense.

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  7. Loving the skirt recommendations in this list! I’m not sure which Dramatic suits me best, but the skirts here are great. Less so the pants, but maybe that just taste – and in any case no way am I ready to tackle sewing pants yet. I just about finished a skirt pattern that is VERY similar to several of the skirts here, and the kick pleat in front is a total mystery to me. Could not understand the directions to save my life. Found a Threads video and just did it that way, for better or worse. Le sigh.

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    1. I’ve never found a good set of instructions for a vent or kick pleat in a sewing pattern. I’ve always had to use explanations from books or the internet to tackle those things.

      Aside from length (Dramatics can go longer), the Dramatic Classic skirts and Dramatic skirts have a lot of things in common, so it would make sense if you could pull from both lists. I think the Dramatic Classic pants pull a bit more towards the Classic side, but with more detail, so if you are Dramatic I could see how they might not be the best style for a Dramatic.

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  8. It’s nice to see so many people identifying with this ID. It’s definitely not me. At 5’3″ and curvy most of these thnigs are not comfortable and really don’t appeal to me although I do have a few of the skirt patterns! I love skirts. I spent 3 years in high school in skirts, dresses and shirt suits with high heels and sheer hose rather than shirts and halter tops or jeans and T’s. My favorite ID’s are Romantic and Theatrical although I’ve always thought I was probably a Sfot Classic. Looking forward to checking out Soft Classic!

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  9. Ooh, it’s my ID! Honestly, I’ll admit I was a little disappointed the first time I read this post as you’re right, Kibbe’s guidelines for DCs are pretty narrow and specific so there isn’t much variety in the separates.

    But then I went through the whole post a second time and realised I would love to wear pretty much everything here and I know I’d look fabulous, so thank you for giving me lots of new pattern ideas! Also, I think I might need to subscribe to Burda…

    The only one of these patterns I’ve made is the Vogue Galaxy dress copy, and I feel amazing when I wear it. I’m thinking I should make another with the square neckline and short sleeves now… not that I need any more party dresses!

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    1. That’s great! I feel like all of the Classic types have pretty narrow descriptions as far as styles go (especially when compared with Gamines or even Naturals), but I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing, and I sort of think that’s what makes them, well, Classic. I think Classic IDs are where TNT patterns can really shine – if you feel amazing in it, why not have 2 (or 5) in your wardrobe?

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